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	<title>Comments on: Christian Child Discipline: Is Spanking Biblical? (No!)</title>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strangely enough, the ONLY part of the Bible which advocates spanking is Proverbs, penned by a king who couldn&#039;t even discipline his own life.  solomon, so-called child REARING expert, built idols for his heathen wives, some of whom were Moloch and Chemesh, that demanded child sacrifice.  What about Solomon&#039;s own parenting skills?  His son Rehoboam was one ugly customer who threatened to beat his laborers with scorpions.  NOWHERE in any of the gospels or epistles does Christ or His apostles command parents to beat their kids.  It opens a can of worms.  How big can the paddle be?  How hard?  How many hits for a spilled glass of milk?  Proverbs also recommends that foolish people be pounded in a mortar and pestle and beaten with rods.  Why don&#039;t Christians enforce THOSE laws as well? http://www.scribd.com/doc/48804213/Backside-Baptist-Child-REAR-ing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough, the ONLY part of the Bible which advocates spanking is Proverbs, penned by a king who couldn&#8217;t even discipline his own life.  solomon, so-called child REARING expert, built idols for his heathen wives, some of whom were Moloch and Chemesh, that demanded child sacrifice.  What about Solomon&#8217;s own parenting skills?  His son Rehoboam was one ugly customer who threatened to beat his laborers with scorpions.  NOWHERE in any of the gospels or epistles does Christ or His apostles command parents to beat their kids.  It opens a can of worms.  How big can the paddle be?  How hard?  How many hits for a spilled glass of milk?  Proverbs also recommends that foolish people be pounded in a mortar and pestle and beaten with rods.  Why don&#8217;t Christians enforce THOSE laws as well? <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/48804213/Backside-Baptist-Child-REAR-ing" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/48804213/Backside-Baptist-Child-REAR-ing</a></p>
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		<title>By: jlb</title>
		<link>http://parentingfreedom.com/discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-106475</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, THANK YOU SO MUCH for this enlightenment!!! I am SO thankful I came across this blog!! Kids are people, they are growing adults who need respect and love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, THANK YOU SO MUCH for this enlightenment!!! I am SO thankful I came across this blog!! Kids are people, they are growing adults who need respect and love!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://parentingfreedom.com/discipline/comment-page-1/#comment-106154</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you thank you thank you. I have struggled so hard with this issue over the years. I do not yet have kids, but have been on the fence of which side of this debate I was going to fall on. 

I was severely disciplined with spanking as a child, and it had longlasting negative emotional effects (depression and anger and authority issues, mostly). I also feel that this harsh childrearing (by loving and well meaning parents, no less) directly contributed to boundaries issues I had. In my early twenties this led to unhealthy relationships with friends filled with drama and manipulation. It also directly led to an abusive marriage. While my exhusband did not hit me, the boundaries issues led to severe verbal and emotional abuse, and eventually threats to physically harm me (this ended the marriage).

In my twenties, I always said that I would NEVER spank my kids. While watching my sister raise her children, and being exposed to the glut of extreme right fundamentalist parenting lit out there, I had my doubts, however, about the biblicalness of not spanking. Also, I saw how hard it was for my sister to parent her boy through a very tough tantrum phase where he was extremely defiant. She had had a general no spanking policy herself (due to our childhood) until his defiance got the better of both of us. 

However, two things have convinced me that I will not and can not spank my child. First, watching my rage when confronted by my nephew&#039;s naughtiness reminds me of the deep well of pain from my own childhood. 

And this article has been key for me for exposing the unbiblicalness of spanking. Thank you thank you again for confirming what my heart feels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you thank you thank you. I have struggled so hard with this issue over the years. I do not yet have kids, but have been on the fence of which side of this debate I was going to fall on. </p>
<p>I was severely disciplined with spanking as a child, and it had longlasting negative emotional effects (depression and anger and authority issues, mostly). I also feel that this harsh childrearing (by loving and well meaning parents, no less) directly contributed to boundaries issues I had. In my early twenties this led to unhealthy relationships with friends filled with drama and manipulation. It also directly led to an abusive marriage. While my exhusband did not hit me, the boundaries issues led to severe verbal and emotional abuse, and eventually threats to physically harm me (this ended the marriage).</p>
<p>In my twenties, I always said that I would NEVER spank my kids. While watching my sister raise her children, and being exposed to the glut of extreme right fundamentalist parenting lit out there, I had my doubts, however, about the biblicalness of not spanking. Also, I saw how hard it was for my sister to parent her boy through a very tough tantrum phase where he was extremely defiant. She had had a general no spanking policy herself (due to our childhood) until his defiance got the better of both of us. </p>
<p>However, two things have convinced me that I will not and can not spank my child. First, watching my rage when confronted by my nephew&#8217;s naughtiness reminds me of the deep well of pain from my own childhood. </p>
<p>And this article has been key for me for exposing the unbiblicalness of spanking. Thank you thank you again for confirming what my heart feels.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the Pearls and Parenting, Once Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the Pearls and Parenting, Once Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this article. I know that I was led only by the Holy Spirit to this blog...I can not even tell you how else I got here to this article. For several years now, I have prayed about this subject..I have 2 girls ages 6 and 7 we have never spanked our 7 year old...she has never &quot;needed&quot; to be spanked, if you will, however, just writing that makes me cringe..we have however, spanked our 6 year old. She is quite defiant and disobeys, lies, manipulate, etc...alot. Daddy does most of the spanking..I tend to breakdown after &quot;popping her leg&quot; it breaks my heart, I have always felt it was wrong and only taught her to &quot;hit&quot; as well. Well, that she does..&quot;hit&quot; her sister all the time, her behavior has not gotten better from the spanking...to be quite honest it has progressed and my husband and I discuss this alot. He knows my feelings on the spanking thing...I was spanked alot as a child (all 5 of us children were) with the belt, hand, fly swatter, wooden spoon, you name it- it was used. I never felt love..ever after a spanking-always resentment and pain, rejection. It has affected me all of my life. I find it hard to trust people, I am quick to anger, really strugge with submission in my marriage, yell at my children alot. I pray about this subject constantly and have asked God to show me what and how I should be disciplining my girls. Asked him to help me understand what the Bible says about spanking, etc...and felt like I was disobeying when I wanted to NOT make spanking a part of the discipline in our household especially when our Pastors in the past have told us that spanking is biblical. so confusing. Well, like I said, The Lord placed this article in my lap tonite. I wept as I read it. Then brought my husband into the kitchen, had him sit down and I read it to him. We both agreed that it begins with us...we speak and speak about how we are raising our children to Love the Lord and we are setting a terrible example for them!..by yelling at them, &quot;popping&quot; or &quot;spanking&quot; them...etc...we agreed that the change has to start NOW! and it will. Thank you for your hard work and research you put into this article. I can not tell you how it has blessed me and my husband. I will share it with my friends as well. Thank you Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this article. I know that I was led only by the Holy Spirit to this blog&#8230;I can not even tell you how else I got here to this article. For several years now, I have prayed about this subject..I have 2 girls ages 6 and 7 we have never spanked our 7 year old&#8230;she has never &#8220;needed&#8221; to be spanked, if you will, however, just writing that makes me cringe..we have however, spanked our 6 year old. She is quite defiant and disobeys, lies, manipulate, etc&#8230;alot. Daddy does most of the spanking..I tend to breakdown after &#8220;popping her leg&#8221; it breaks my heart, I have always felt it was wrong and only taught her to &#8220;hit&#8221; as well. Well, that she does..&#8221;hit&#8221; her sister all the time, her behavior has not gotten better from the spanking&#8230;to be quite honest it has progressed and my husband and I discuss this alot. He knows my feelings on the spanking thing&#8230;I was spanked alot as a child (all 5 of us children were) with the belt, hand, fly swatter, wooden spoon, you name it- it was used. I never felt love..ever after a spanking-always resentment and pain, rejection. It has affected me all of my life. I find it hard to trust people, I am quick to anger, really strugge with submission in my marriage, yell at my children alot. I pray about this subject constantly and have asked God to show me what and how I should be disciplining my girls. Asked him to help me understand what the Bible says about spanking, etc&#8230;and felt like I was disobeying when I wanted to NOT make spanking a part of the discipline in our household especially when our Pastors in the past have told us that spanking is biblical. so confusing. Well, like I said, The Lord placed this article in my lap tonite. I wept as I read it. Then brought my husband into the kitchen, had him sit down and I read it to him. We both agreed that it begins with us&#8230;we speak and speak about how we are raising our children to Love the Lord and we are setting a terrible example for them!..by yelling at them, &#8220;popping&#8221; or &#8220;spanking&#8221; them&#8230;etc&#8230;we agreed that the change has to start NOW! and it will. Thank you for your hard work and research you put into this article. I can not tell you how it has blessed me and my husband. I will share it with my friends as well. Thank you Thank you.</p>
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